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Who was the inventor Gary Gochnour? He has a series of patents that are incredibly complex and UFO-like. His father served in the WW2 Italian theater in the 760th Armored as an officer, not far from Magenta. Did his father play any role in the SIAI facility capture? Are these patents a leak?

Posted by NecroSocial 8 months ago
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This is a repost of this Reddit thread. Patents caan be viewed here and here. Those and further links below. The link added on Magenta UFO is mine since I didn't know the reference before reading this.

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Bullet points:

  • Seemingly average person near the end of their life from 2005-2010 files four extraordinarily complex and detailed patents that effectively describe modern UFO/UAP theory and details appearing related to the 2017 New York Times leak and later.
  • This person died in 2015.
  • This person seems to have had absolutely no connections to the sciences/engineering in any public record. They were an Army veteran. They owned a hotel. Some clues they may have even been a truck driver.
  • This persons father appears to have been a US Army command officer in Italy in WW2 adjacent to/nearby the areas where the claimed 1933 Italian UFO was captured from the Italian military in 1945. This person's father later remained in the military, reaching colonel rank.
  • How did this normal guy come up with such forward looking material?
  • Did this person get this from his father, and later leak it via patent before his death?

Summary:

I found extraordinary UFO-related patents by a deceased Army veteran with seemingly no other history in this field or the sciences documented anywhere online. These are substantially advanced and complex patents with schematics and incredibly deep dive physics and engineering details. These are not "placeholder" patents. They're fully detailed and have schematics. They were all filed in a relatively short window of time from 2005 to 2010.

I can find nothing that shows this person had any sort of sciences or engineering background to draft materials like this available in public. I can find nothing about his career outside of his Army service and that he owned a hotel in New Orleans at one point. There is nothing else relevant about his life online that I have found except for his obituary so far.

His father, from digging, was a US Army officer in World War 2 in the 760th Armored who served in Italy in very close proximity to the area where the claimed "Magenta" UFO was said to be housed in the SIAI Marchetti Aviation Facility from 1933 onward.

This explicitly is the 1933 UFO reference from David Grusch.

Who was this Gary Gochnour? What are these? Did someone file these patents as a leak? Is it possible this person learned something or received something from his father, and later in life released it this way?

Gary Gochnour: Army veteran files bleeding edge patents at end of life, 2005-2010.

Gary passed away in 2015. He was retired from the Army and for a time owned a New Orleans hotel.

Floyd Gochnour: Army HQ officer in Italy 1940s, near Grusch claimed UFO recovery. Father of Gary.

Here's where it gets even more interesting...

His father, Floyd, also deceased, was a Lt. Colonel in the military at retirement and served in the 760th Armored Battalion as of 1944 as a headquarters assigned Major. His father was a command officer in WW2 in the direct vicinity of where the Magenta UFO was said to be housed.

The only references that I can find to this fathers role in the military was the following PDF that I found with some digging around:

That puts his father as a US Army officer in the 760th Tank Battalion in Italy. That tank battalion in 1944 was in the vicinity of Florence, which is nearby to... Magenta and SIAI. Which brings me to this:

In April of 1945, the 1st Armoured Division captured the SIAI Marchetti Aviation Facility where the 1933 Magenta UFO (or it debris) was probably kept and it was brought to the United States.

The SIAI Marchetti Aviation Facility was part of SIAI-Marchetti, headquartered in Sesto Calende. That's not far from where the 760th was. The 760th seems to have been one of a number of such units not formally attached to a larger body (like the 1st Armored Division) in the war, but that floated around depending on mission?

In any event, it puts Floyd Gochnour, father of the patent filer, a military commanding officer, into direct proximity, time and place relative to the Magenta UFO reports during WW2 that imply the US military claimed or found the Mussolini UFO from 1933 in the SIAI facilities that the 1st Armored Division captured in 1945.

This is a potential link to David Grusch's statements about Italy in regard to Magenta.

Outstanding questions:

  1. How did Gary Gochnour come up with these incredibly complicated and advanced schematics and patents that he filed from 2005-2010?
  2. What was Gary Gochnour's background related to the absolutely incredibly diverse fields that would be required to develop, let alone understand, these patents?
  3. When did Gary Gochnour begin work on these patents?
  4. Where was Floyd Gochnour in 1945 when the 1st Armored took SIAI?
  5. What was Floyd Gochnour's later role in the military after the war that took him to Lt. Colonel rank?
  6. Did Gary release these at the end of his long life, after getting them via his father?

Gochnour Patents:

Transmedium craft.

The invention relates to a plasma based aircraft maintained in a flight mode by rotating plasma vortices located above and beneath said aircraft. Said aircraft is comprised of chromium steel, or higher ferrochromium steel can be used. Said aircraft receives energy from aircraft produced plasma obtained from the atmosphere.

Produced energy is stored within craft oscillatory circuit and plasma vortices. When energy from craft capacitance system is depleting, energy can be obtained from craft inductance system from craft magnetic field.

Said craft is capable of space flight, use as a submersible craft, boring device, or lifting device. Particle propulsion in space will be accomplished utilizing metal ions stored within craft capacitor plates.

Said craft is opaque to electromagnetic radiation, and also absorbs radiation directed at craft.

Said craft is capable of verticle ascent, descent and landing, and is lenticular in shape.

Said aircraft can operate within earth radiation belts safely.

"Tic Tac" craft.

The invention relates to a plasma based aircraft possessing a magnetic field, and a plasma vortex. The craft is tubular in shape. The craft has a vast array of capacitors. The craft also has a proton accelerator, plasma guns, and diversion devices. The craft will approach the speed of light, over time. The craft obtains fuel direct from an atmosphere or a radiation induced atmosphere in space, at no cost, similar to our Moon's radiation induced atmosphere of the noble gases. The craft can travel to a gk star, for only the cost of construction of craft.

The craft has three on-board escape, exploratory craft. The craft produces plasma vortices within an electromagnetic field. The field is an inhomogeneous, diamagnetic, orbiting plasma field, with a magnetohydrodynamic electrically conducting plasma current.

The craft possesses approximately seven uninsulated, tungsten bands, encircling craft.

There is an interesting thing here in the notes of this patent:

This invention will permit travel in space. In view of a near miss of the earth by an asteroid during a recent tsunami, an asteroid impact that would have put us into the ice ages, and, in view of expected impacts by this asteroid in 2029 or 2036, this patent is highly opportune.

Fusion/plasma based propulsion and power systems.

The invention relates to a plasma based aircraft maintained in a flight mode by either post nuclear fusion reaction plasma contained rotating vortices above and beneath said aircraft, or a pre-nuclear fusion reaction aircraft flight mode comprising use of said rotating vortices and a plasma gun when needed. Said aircraft is comprised of chromium steel, or higher ferrochromium steel can be used. Said aircraft requires no external fuel source, said aircraft receives energy from aircraft produced plasma and electric energy. Starting energy is stored in aircraft capacitance system. Said craft is capable of space flight, use as a submersible craft, boring device, or lifting device. Said aircraft can also be utilized in an artificial domed environment to produce heat, light, a light mist, energy, and can regenerate an atmosphere, and produce an atmosphere, and other uses. Said craft does not require an external source of fuel for space flight or for submersible use. Particle propulsion in space will be used utilizing metal ions stored in said craft capacitor plates. Said craft is opaque, invisible within the visible spectrum, and invisible to electromagnetic radiation, and absorbs radiation it produces. Said aircraft is capable of verticle ascent, descent and landing. Said aircraft can operate within earth radiation belts safely, and for extended periods of time. Said aircraft with two larger aircraft comprised of magnesium aluminum material, can achieve ignition of a B-11 fusion spherical plasma, formed by smaller craft electrolysis system, with no radiation or cooling required and store produced energy in craft plasma vortices.

Fusion/plasma propulsion systems for power generation.

The invention relates to plasma based aircraft maintained in a flight-mode by an uplifting Larmor gyro orbiting particle field, and an extensive capacitor system. Said aircraft is comprised of chromium steel, or higher ferrochromium steel can also be used. Said aircraft system can operate utilizing only energy required to initiate operation of said craft. The energy to start said craft is from energy stored within said capacitor system, and said energy also obtained from the operating environment. Said craft, is immediately capable of space flight, use as a submersible craft, or use as an energy source in an artificial environment. Said craft is opaque, invisible within the visible spectrum, invisible to electromagnetic radiation, and absorbs radiation it produces. Said aircraft is capable of soundless flight. Said aircraft is capable of verticle ascent, descent and landing. Said aircraft can operate within earth radiation belts. Said aircraft is capable of speeds in excess of the fastest aerodynamic aircraft, said aircraft navigates within a particle field at a faster rate than conventional aerodyamic aircraft within the atmosphere. Said aircraft, with two larger, faster aircraft, comprised of magnesium aluminum material, can attain ignition of a formed fusion spherical plasma on roof of said ferromagnetic, smaller craft, utilizing the fuels boron B-11 isotope and regular hydrogen with no radiation, cooling needed.

Additional reading, context and links:

I found one prior /u/UFOs discussion about these patents. This person didn't find the data about Gary's father, Floyd, or the startling connection to the Grusch, Mussolini, and Magenta/SIAI affairs. It was dumb luck on my part, thinking to Google the address in the patent filing which led to finding the reference to his father as a military officer.

I assumed a WW2 connection due to the age of Gary, and found that obscure PDF detailing 1944 activities of the 760th that involved Floyd. When I noticed some of the names of locations in that Army report, I recognized them, besides Florence, as nearby the "target area" of the 1933 Grusch/Magenta claims, but I wasn't sure. When I checked driving directions on Google Maps from A to B, and the SIAI headquarters site, I almost fell out of my chair for how close Gary's father was physically and for time and place to put him in the vicinity of the WW2 Magenta connection.

Seeing that it was the 1st Armored, which probably had connections to the 760th for time and place, plus this random person filing these incredible patents was just too much, and so here is all my found data for review.

Prior reddit discussion, just about the patent technologies themselves:

https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/uz5sdl/i_heard_you_guys_like_ufo_patents_heres_what_the/

Obituary and news article:

2027 has a connection here that I just noticed:

Editing two hours after posting -- read the addendum that I just added to the tubular craft patent. There is this passage in the patent:

"In view of a near miss of the earth by an asteroid during a recent tsunami, an asteroid impact that would have put us into the ice ages, and, in view of expected impacts by this asteroid in 2029 or 2036, this patent is highly opportune."

Edited 8 months ago

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Just to calm the nerves of anyone expecting to still be alive in 2029 or 2036, the "expected impact" asteroid mentioned is Apophis which is no longer considered to in danger of hitting us. It was ruled out between 2008-2013 after the patent mentioning it was applied for so the author's mention of it was the correct understanding at the time.

In any event I'd love to see a comparison of these patents (by a qualified physicist or engineer) with those of Salvatore Cezar Pais' patents here and here which are similar sci-fi level, UAP style tech.

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