The guy has to talk first or make the first move. I never could do that with a woman. Thats why i am an incel.

I wonder if you just have too much estrogen.

I got rejected thousands of times by all kinds of girls when I was growing up and it didn't really bother me to get rejected, I was just super depressed whenever I was alone. Eventually I figured out what to do though, some girls really are out there (for me)

>ask woman out

>she gives you this incredulous look like you have just insulted her by even believing she was worthy of you

yea, that was that for me. She wasnt even that great looking either.